Comments for Edna Hospital of Somaliland http://blog.ednahospital.org Maternity and Childrens Health Services in the Horn of Africa Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:13:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 Comment on Female Circumcision in Kurdistan by avan http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/comment-page-1/#comment-462 avan Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:13:16 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/#comment-462 I have a question for Johnny Rocket...if you think that it is no big deal then how would you like your balls to be cut off when you are a kid to prevent pre-marital sex or pregnancy? There is no health or sane reason why they should do this to girls other than take all the pleasure out of having sex and making it extremely painful. Women have gotten infections from this procedure, complications with birth and many times ended in Death because of this pointless procedure. Please let this and all forms of child abuse STOP! I have a question for Johnny Rocket…if you think that it is no big deal then how would you like your balls to be cut off when you are a kid to prevent pre-marital sex or pregnancy? There is no health or sane reason why they should do this to girls other than take all the pleasure out of having sex and making it extremely painful. Women have gotten infections from this procedure, complications with birth and many times ended in Death because of this pointless procedure. Please let this and all forms of child abuse STOP!

]]> Comment on Female Circumcision in Kurdistan by Webmaster http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/comment-page-1/#comment-455 Webmaster Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:53:44 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/#comment-455 Here is a follow-up article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/iraqi-kurdistan-girls-and_b_614483.html Female Genital Mutilation in Iraqi Kurdistan has been condemned by Human Rights Watch: "FGM violates women's and children's rights, including their rights to life, health, and bodily integrity," said Nadya Khalife, Middle East women's rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. "It's time for the regional government to step up to the plate and take concrete actions to eliminate this harmful practice because it simply won't go away on its own." Here is a follow-up article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/human-rights-watch/iraqi-kurdistan-girls-and_b_614483.html

Female Genital Mutilation in Iraqi Kurdistan has been condemned by Human Rights Watch:

“FGM violates women’s and children’s rights, including their rights to life, health, and bodily integrity,” said Nadya Khalife, Middle East women’s rights researcher at Human Rights Watch. “It’s time for the regional government to step up to the plate and take concrete actions to eliminate this harmful practice because it simply won’t go away on its own.”

]]> Comment on Female Circumcision in Kurdistan by Elischa http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Elischa Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:32:35 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/#comment-452 This is an extremely stupid belief, I agree with Jennifer on the fact that how could the mother just stand there and watch their child being mutilated and be able to listen to their child scream it is absurd someone needs to step in and stop this from happaning even if it has to be foreigners that do it, doing this to children is not a belief or tradition or something they have to do, it is CHILD ABUSE and should not be happening, this type of surgery can cause many affects afterwards, even death, how could that mother let her child go through that knowing there is a chance her daughter could die in the process. God has not made women or men for that matter to circumcised, if God intended it to be like that then he would have made man with no genitals, it is the men controlling the womens sexuality, sexuality is a good thing. Jonny i totally disagree, there is little numbing agents out there that they are able to get hold of and even if they did they would have to be under a lot, circumcision would cause extreme pain, especially as the genitals are a sensitive area. If someone wants to have sex before marriage then that is there choice no one has the right to thell them otherwise even if it is their religion, this is not the answer. I hope all thoses sick people out there that think this practice is ok DIE, I hope God does not give them an easy punishment for whet they have done to all these poor women and men. This is an extremely stupid belief, I agree with Jennifer on the fact that how could the mother just stand there and watch their child being mutilated and be able to listen to their child scream it is absurd someone needs to step in and stop this from happaning even if it has to be foreigners that do it, doing this to children is not a belief or tradition or something they have to do, it is CHILD ABUSE and should not be happening, this type of surgery can cause many affects afterwards, even death, how could that mother let her child go through that knowing there is a chance her daughter could die in the process. God has not made women or men for that matter to circumcised, if God intended it to be like that then he would have made man with no genitals, it is the men controlling the womens sexuality, sexuality is a good thing. Jonny i totally disagree, there is little numbing agents out there that they are able to get hold of and even if they did they would have to be under a lot, circumcision would cause extreme pain, especially as the genitals are a sensitive area. If someone wants to have sex before marriage then that is there choice no one has the right to thell them otherwise even if it is their religion, this is not the answer. I hope all thoses sick people out there that think this practice is ok DIE, I hope God does not give them an easy punishment for whet they have done to all these poor women and men.

]]> Comment on Female Circumcision in Kurdistan by Some guy http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/comment-page-1/#comment-405 Some guy Wed, 02 Jun 2010 11:48:24 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/#comment-405 This is why Eve Ensler works really hard in order to abrogate woman circumcision and protect women rights. It is hard to consider this thing as a part of any "culture". However, -no offense- the purpose of this article is a little bit vague since showing these things as a part of Islam or Middle Eastern culture became popular nowadays. This thing has nothing to do with Islam, and I actually do not know any Kurd that approves woman circumcision. I totally agree with Rebekah about controlling men's controlling women's sexuality. This is actually a matter of (un)education. Alas; the poor people of this world are being forced to be kept out of education... P.S: I am not a muslim. This is why Eve Ensler works really hard in order to abrogate woman circumcision and protect women rights. It is hard to consider this thing as a part of any “culture”. However, -no offense- the purpose of this article is a little bit vague since showing these things as a part of Islam or Middle Eastern culture became popular nowadays. This thing has nothing to do with Islam, and I actually do not know any Kurd that approves woman circumcision.

I totally agree with Rebekah about controlling men’s controlling women’s sexuality. This is actually a matter of (un)education. Alas; the poor people of this world are being forced to be kept out of education…

P.S: I am not a muslim.

]]> Comment on FGM Compromise? by Ayaan Hirsi Ali on FGM Compromise | Edna Hospital of Somaliland http://blog.ednahospital.org/2010/05/07/female-genital-mutilatio/comment-page-1/#comment-358 Ayaan Hirsi Ali on FGM Compromise | Edna Hospital of Somaliland Sun, 23 May 2010 01:05:52 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/?p=235#comment-358 [...] author, and former member of The Netherlands parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, has weighed in on the proposed compromise on Female Genital Mutilation [...] [...] author, and former member of The Netherlands parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, has weighed in on the proposed compromise on Female Genital Mutilation [...]

]]> Comment on Female Circumcision in Kurdistan by Rebekah http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Rebekah Wed, 12 May 2010 00:47:41 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/#comment-322 REASONABLE RELIGIOUS PRACTICE ?!!!??? No god would want this for us!!!! This is men trying to control women's sexuality. Men who agree with this are weak, stupid, and evil!!!! I feel sorry for you because you were raised to be the way that you are. How very sorry I am for you I will pray for all of you. REASONABLE RELIGIOUS PRACTICE ?!!!??? No god would want this for us!!!! This is men trying to control women’s sexuality. Men who agree with this are weak, stupid, and evil!!!! I feel sorry for you because you were raised to be the way that you are. How very sorry I am for you I will pray for all of you.

]]> Comment on FGM Compromise? by Julia Lalla-Maharajh http://blog.ednahospital.org/2010/05/07/female-genital-mutilatio/comment-page-1/#comment-318 Julia Lalla-Maharajh Sun, 09 May 2010 14:19:59 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/?p=235#comment-318 Equally horrified by this statement, which I also blogged about recently on my website. My medical adviser in the UK also submitted this letter to the British Medical Journal, which makes their stance as doctors unambiguous: American Academy of Pediatrics – female genital mutilation The BMJ news summary errs. (1) Close reading of the American Academy of Paediatrics (AAP) Bioethics Committee statement (2) shows that, despite sensitively explaining the cultural meanings, procedures, consequences and illegality, the 1998 stance (3) has been modified; proposing legal change in the USA to enable paediatricians to “reach out to families by offering a ritual nick as a possible compromise”. FGC is not a treatment in the child’s best medical interests. (4) Cultural rituals, rites of passage, adult female sexual pleasure and marriageability are not within the scope of appropriate, expert paediatric practice. A girl without a problem is not a patient; the doctor becomes a stranger with no indication to expose, touch or cut the genitalia. Different approaches, including moratoriums on non-medically indicated genital alteration, have been suggested until adolescents or adults can make the decision themselves, e.g. in children with disorders of sex development (5,6) and circumcised boys. (7) Girls could accuse the AAP of disregarding unconsented damage to their sexual lives and betraying the trust vested in the medical profession. If parents or associates perform the “nick” they take responsibility for any consequences. If doctors charge a fee-for-service, they have an interest in creating a veneer of ‘medical respectability’. The coy presentation of laceration as harm limitation condones FGC and will have worldwide repercussions. The AAP must be condemned for giving ideological succour to medical involvement in ritual FGC. However minor, assaults on children should be named and requests met with a gentle but firm ‘no’. Susan Bewley MD FRCOG MA Consultant Obstetrician, Kings Health Partners, London Janice Rymer MD FRCOG FRANZCOG FHEA Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Kings College London Sarah Creighton MD FRCOG Consultant Gynaecologist, University College Hospital, London (1) In brief. US paediatricians condemn ritual female genital cutting. BMJ 2010;240:942 (2) American Academy of Pediatrics. Policy statement – ritual genital cutting of female minors. Pediatrics http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/peds.2010- 0187v1 published online April 26, 2010 accessed 2/5/2010 (3) American Academy of Pediatrics. Committee on Bioethics. Female Genital Mutilation. Pediatrics 1998;102;153-156 (4) World Health Organisation. Female genital mutilation. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ accessed 2/5/2010 (5) Creighton SM, Liao L-M. Changing attitudes to sex assignment in intersex. BJU International. 2004;93:659-664 (6) Kipnis, K. & Diamond, M: Pediatric Ethics and the Surgical Assignment of Sex. J. Clin. Ethics 1998;9 (4) 398–410 (7) Circumcision information and resource pages http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/ accessed 2/5/2010 Competing interests: None declared Equally horrified by this statement, which I also blogged about recently on my website. My medical adviser in the UK also submitted this letter to the British Medical Journal, which makes their stance as doctors unambiguous:

American Academy of Pediatrics – female genital mutilation

The BMJ news summary errs. (1) Close reading of the American Academy of Paediatrics (AAP) Bioethics Committee statement (2) shows that, despite sensitively explaining the cultural meanings, procedures, consequences and illegality, the 1998 stance (3) has been modified; proposing legal change in the USA to enable paediatricians to “reach out to families by offering a ritual nick as a possible compromise”. FGC is not a treatment in the child’s best medical interests. (4) Cultural rituals, rites of passage, adult female sexual pleasure and marriageability are not within the scope of appropriate, expert paediatric practice. A girl without a problem is not a patient; the doctor becomes a stranger with no indication to expose, touch or cut the genitalia. Different approaches, including moratoriums on non-medically indicated genital alteration, have been suggested until adolescents or adults can make the decision themselves, e.g. in children with disorders of sex development (5,6) and circumcised boys. (7) Girls could accuse the AAP of disregarding unconsented damage to their sexual lives and betraying the trust vested in the medical profession. If parents or associates perform the “nick” they take responsibility for any consequences. If doctors charge a fee-for-service, they have an interest in creating a veneer of ‘medical respectability’. The coy presentation of laceration as harm limitation condones FGC and will have worldwide repercussions. The AAP must be condemned for giving ideological succour to medical involvement in ritual FGC. However minor, assaults on children should be named and requests met with a gentle but firm ‘no’.

Susan Bewley MD FRCOG MA Consultant Obstetrician, Kings Health Partners, London

Janice Rymer MD FRCOG FRANZCOG FHEA Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Kings College London

Sarah Creighton MD FRCOG Consultant Gynaecologist, University College Hospital, London

(1) In brief. US paediatricians condemn ritual female genital cutting. BMJ 2010;240:942
(2) American Academy of Pediatrics. Policy statement – ritual genital cutting of female minors. Pediatrics http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/peds.2010- 0187v1 published online April 26, 2010 accessed 2/5/2010
(3) American Academy of Pediatrics. Committee on Bioethics. Female Genital Mutilation. Pediatrics 1998;102;153-156
(4) World Health Organisation. Female genital mutilation. http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/ accessed 2/5/2010
(5) Creighton SM, Liao L-M. Changing attitudes to sex assignment in intersex. BJU International. 2004;93:659-664
(6) Kipnis, K. & Diamond, M: Pediatric Ethics and the Surgical Assignment of Sex. J. Clin. Ethics 1998;9 (4) 398–410
(7) Circumcision information and resource pages http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/ accessed 2/5/2010
Competing interests: None declared

]]> Comment on Female Circumcision in Kurdistan by Johnny Rocket http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/comment-page-1/#comment-313 Johnny Rocket Thu, 06 May 2010 14:23:41 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/2009/04/15/female-circumcision-in-kurdistan/#comment-313 Seems like a reasonable religious practice to me. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Some sort of numbing agent should be used to help with the pain. Seems like a reasonable religious practice to me. I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Some sort of numbing agent should be used to help with the pain.

]]> Comment on Edna Adan Knighted by France by MAHMOUD HAMDU MANDRAS http://blog.ednahospital.org/2010/04/20/edna-adan-knighted-by-france/comment-page-1/#comment-294 MAHMOUD HAMDU MANDRAS Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:51:45 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/?p=214#comment-294 dear HOYO!!!!!!!!! EDNA WE GIVE HANDS TO WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO OUR COUNTRY MAY ALLAH GIVES A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AREWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIJUWI dear HOYO!!!!!!!!! EDNA WE GIVE HANDS TO WHAT YOU’RE DOING TO OUR COUNTRY MAY ALLAH GIVES A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AREWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIJUWI

]]> Comment on Hillary Clinton photo by Ahmed Jama http://blog.ednahospital.org/2010/04/09/hillary-clinton-edna-adan/comment-page-1/#comment-292 Ahmed Jama Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:33:03 +0000 http://blog.ednahospital.org/?p=208#comment-292 IF THERE IS A TRUE SOMALILANDER WHO IS SERVING SOMALILAND IS EDNA. PEOPLE OF SOMALILANDER ARE EAGERLY TO HAVE EDNA AS A HEAD OF STATE. MAY PEACE BE WITH HER THIS DAY AND ALWAYS. (AMIN) AHMED JAMA (GERMANY) IF THERE IS A TRUE SOMALILANDER WHO IS SERVING SOMALILAND IS
EDNA. PEOPLE OF SOMALILANDER ARE EAGERLY TO HAVE EDNA AS A HEAD
OF STATE.
MAY PEACE BE WITH HER THIS DAY AND ALWAYS. (AMIN)

AHMED JAMA (GERMANY)

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